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People have always been moving out, but fewer people are moving in.
As far as I’ve read, that’s the issue.
People have been leaving at an unprecedented rate, there’s no denying that
They have lost a small amount of population since Covid, like a lot of places. A lot of cities have lost population when people started working from home more often.
But the “exodus” is something like a 0.7% decrease over the course of 2 years or something according to the estimates. Like 300,000 people out of a population of 40 million, or along those lines.
Yes, there are always people moving out and moving in, but the rate of people moving out is increasing while moving in decreasing. Expense, ability to work from home and wild fires contribute to that.
It’s just the first time they’ve seen a population decrease in like decades. It could be indicative of something more, but it’s almost entirely due to it being incredibly expensive to live in Cali.
More people are leaving than being born there or moving in. It’s one of a handful of states experiencing this.
They lost a house seat in the recent census because of it.
It is a net loss of population (moving out, moving in, being born, dying are all part of the equation)
Not really noticeable for residents, though… it’s still super competitive to rent apartments and buy houses.
Exodus is a huge overstatement their population declined .6% last year. Right wingers keep bringing it up because it’s the only argument they have ever had that California’s government isnt working.
Officials recorded about 275,000 people leaving California last year, up from about 180,000 in the years before the pandemic. That decline is typically offset by the arrival of immigrants from abroad, but last year that figure plummeted.
CNBC isn’t really aligned with a political party, but they spew out a massive amount of anti-California rhetoric.
I think they do this because it’s popular and ppl love seeing big states “fall” (“the bigger they are, the harder they fall.”)
For example, they run a very popular YouTube channel with a bunch of 10 min shorts. Tue most popular ones all try to argue that California is a terrible place to be.
They’ve been saying this forever, people are still flooding into to the state despite the slight population decrease.
Coloradans have complained about “californiacation” for decades, anecdotally i’ve seen way more outbound Texans.
California has a lot of issues and it’s getting extremely expensive to live in most of it. People are fed up with the politics, high taxes, homelessness, crime. The Gov is attacking the middle class and wealthy and expects people and businesses to take care of the poor when the state doesn’t want too.
CA is not the same it was 20 years ago. Unfortunately the liberal CA have invaded AZ and have turned our state into a shit show
I sell homes in East Tennessee and have seen a big uptick of Californians (and people from the NE) moving here. Mostly late middle age and retired folks who come here for the cost of living and to escape the large cities.
No. Most people in California are moving to other parts of California. There’s less people moving here and less babies being born.
There’s still a shit ton of people here, believe me.
People have been leaving California for years due to rising cost of living and political disagreements.
“Cali’s gone to shit, I’m going to move to Idaho”
-Californians probably
The cost of living is astronomical in California. In many cases it is leave or be homeless for some people. I am a professor and business owner. My wife and I make a combined income that is double the average and we still aren’t sure how we will be able to afford a house.
Honestly, I wouldn’t call it an exodus. The state population did decline slightly – from 39.3 million people to 39.15 million people. CA is pretty saturated at this point and it’s difficult for many to make it work here, particularly if they aren’t already established here socially. That said, I feel that I have a high quality of life here and there’s a lot of right-wing hysteria around the situation. People will froth at the mouth about CA while their state has a higher homicide rate, lower life expectancy, more prohibitive health care system, considerably less economic opportunity, skeletal workers rights, etc. I once saw someone compare the situation here to 1960s Detroit – as though a monocultural economy centered around manufacturing is even remotely comparable to the diverse and massive economy of modern California. The state has its issues for sure but there’s a good handful of states that are worse off.
They did just lose seats in Congress for the first time I know of, so there might be something to it. I’m one of the people who has left lately.
If it’s being talked about in any way other than “this might effect the balance of population between states in a marginal way if the trend continues over the next several years” then it’s being overstated.
Try to do anything here like rent an apartment, go to an event, looking for parking, and you’d never know it.
I have had three of my family members move out. Oklahoma Texas and Minnesota. I don’t have alot of family left in this state
How do you know someone is from california? They’ll tell you within 30s. And they’ll defend California on Reddit.
Everyone I know who moved out of state can’t afford to live here. That and racism against latino culture.
I know two families that left recently because of high taxes and high costs of living. A relative retired and left CA specifically for tax reasons. Many people retire to Florida not for the climate, but because of the tax benefits.
Some people with remote jobs are taking the opportunity to move places where housing is much cheaper, so they can afford to buy. A nothing special home big enough for a family can run well over $2m in Silicon Valley, while something similar can cost 1/5 that in many places.
As far as I’m aware, we have a net-gain in population every year. This “exodus” thing has been a headline since I was a kid. After the Camp Fire a lot of people in my area left California as a direct result. Our city is still growing year after year.
We’ve got 12% of the nation’s population, almost 40 million people. If a hundred thousand people move away it seems like a lot until the next time you’re stuck in traffic.
Tldr, it’s a popular topic in headlines, but it’s really not very consequential in the scheme of things.
Of what I’ve seen, this is a case of ‘a lot of people talking, but relatively few people actually doing anything about it.’
A lot of people will talk about the cost of living in California compared to the USA, but forget that the situation is also the same in California itself. There is the high-priced coastline from the north end of the San Francisco metro area, down to San Diego. The top 150 miles of, and anything more than 100 miles from the ocean is not high priced.
So a lot of people might be moving to lower cost-of-living areas. But that could be moving from someplace 15 miles from Los Angeles to someplace 50 miles from Los Angeles. You don’t have to move to Texas, or North Carolina, or Florida.
As a Californian… so many of our jobs been remote during the pandemic and at the same time, cost of living continues to skyrocket, while quality of life was going down. Many people I know moved, some only temporarily.
It’s trendy to hate the “top dog”. California’s industries and economy is still extremely strong. Quality of life recovered significantly and since the recall against Newsom and the SF DA, many things started to improve.
That’s been said, the cost of living is so incredibly high, I feel like if you can’t lean on family, starting out young now and you don’t have top job in tech, biotech, finance or entertainment… oh boy you are screwed.
Over the last year, we have been priced out of our own neighborhood and we arent at the bottom. I honestly don’t know how a non high end employee can afford to live here. And that’s a really big problem.