So both my paternal grandparents were born in Mexico and my maternal grandmother was born in Mexico but my maternal grandfather was born in Uruguay and his father is Italian. I consider myself Italian-American for the reason that I’m legally an Italian citizen and Italian is an ethnicity unlike Mexican or Uruguayan. I also love the food, music and history of Italy and know my Italian lineage up to the 1500s and lots of history of the Italian villages where my ancestors came from. I don’t speak Spanish despite my family really wanting me to learn so how can I be Hispanic? A lot of people are so surprised that I don’t speak Spanish and think I’m Hispanic or Latino. What is you’re definition of Latino?

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  1. Whoever considers themselves Hispanic or Latino.

    > Italian is an ethnicity unlike Mexican or Uruguayan

    Que?

  2. People from new world countries that were previously colonized by Spanish and Portuguese.

    I think some people include French colonies, since it’s a latin descended language, but that’s not what I immediately think of plus includes like, Quebec?

    Edit: Do Mexicans in Mexico not consider it an ethnicity? I’ve definitely met people who identify as Mexican-American as their ethnicity in the US.

    Also, if your claim to Italy is one great grandparent,, and the other 87% of your heritage is Mexican… you might be Mexican.

  3. Hispanic? Spanish speakers

    Latino? Anyone who says they are

    ——

    What’s with all the dvotes? One of you at least state your case because I’m not seeing it.

  4. Hispanic is anyone of Iberian descent which would include Spain, Portugal and their colonies. Although people in the US tend to only use it for Spain and its colonies. The Roman territory of Hispania, from which the name comes, included Portugal.

    Latino would only be the new world colonies of Spain and Portugal. TECHNICALLY, France colonies would by definition be apart of this, but historically it’s not included them so I won’t reinvent the wheel.

    -M.A Spanish, French and Portuguese

    > Other federal and local government agencies and non-profit organizations include Brazilians and Portuguese in their definition of Hispanic. The US Department of Transportation defines Hispanic as “persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican, Central or South American, or others [of] Spanish or Portuguese culture or origin, regardless of race.”[25] This definition has been adopted by the Small Business Administration as well as by many federal, state, and municipal agencies for the purposes of awarding government contracts to minority-owned businesses.

    [.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispania_Tarraconensis)

  5. >who do you consider Hispanic or Latino?

    Uhhh, you. I’d consider you hispanic/Latino.

  6. I understand Hispanic and Latino to be a strictly American concept which has nothing to do with Iberia. Hispanics are from the Spanish-Speaking American countries, Latinos are from the American countries where Latin-derived languages predominate. Basically all the Spanish speakers, Brazil, Haiti, maybe Quebec depending upon how granular you want to get. They are not terms describing community between these countries rather terms describing the separateness of the US and Canadian mainstream cultures as places where English predominates.

  7. Hispanic: anyone with spanish heritage

    Latino: anyone with roman heritage, including the romanian french and portuguese.

    Latin American (latinoamericano) someone born in the american continent, with roman heritage. Mexicans, Cubans and even Canadian Quebecois included, but not Belizeans or Jamaicans.

    Edit: if you have none of those cultures, you are not latino. It doesn’t matter if you are brown or your parents are, you are just an “american” and that’s it.

  8. Out of curiosity, how are you even an Italian citizen? You have one great great grandparent that was Italian and they extend citizenship 3 generations down? Sounds odd.

  9. Only a real American would identify themselves as Italian and justify it by their one great-grandparent and interest in the culture generally.

    You’re possibly white, and definitely Mexican-American kiddo. You remind me of all the silly souls on r/irish. Many of them swear they’re irish despite never having even been there. My father-in-law also swears he’s Italian because he never knew his heritage and has light eyes; he came from Jalísco and his daughter’s dna is 8% italian at best, which is the average amount that the broad majority of mexicans have.

    Unless you’re fluent in italian and have at least lived there for some time… please don’t call yourself and Italian, you’ll only embarrass yourself if you ever actually go there and say that. I do wish you good luck with finding your identity however.

  10. >So both my paternal grandparents were born in Mexico and my maternal grandmother was born in Mexico but my maternal grandfather was born in Uruguay and his father is Italian. I consider myself Italian-American for the reason that I’m legally an Italian citizen and Italian is an ethnicity unlike Mexican or Uruguayan

    This is a mess to untangle but it’s mostly irrelevant.

    It sounds to me like you’re an American who was raised on American culture and shows interest in Italian culture.

    As someone who was born in Latin America and spent half his life there, I will say that being Latin American comes down to both being born in the area, experiencing the lifestyle, and knowing one of the many languages from the area (Spanish or Portuguese or one of the many Indigenous languages there). However, the paradox is that most people who meet this criteria identify more by their NATIONALITY than the transnational ideal of being Latin American. Ergo, why I consider you to be American.

    Sure, you can learn Spanish but you will never be Hispanic/Latino. And that’s fine, I don’t get why you Americans are so obsessed with collecting and classifying identities like they were fucking Pokemon. Ambiguity exists and it’s fine. You’re murican, that’s perfectly fine, some people would love to be that.

    If your family is upset by this then lmao tough shit for them. If your interest is in Italy then go be the best Italyboo you can be.

  11. I don’t understand how most of you don’t consider Spaniards to be Hispanic…

  12. As I was taught it: “Latino” refers to all of Latin America (Mexico, Central America, South America, & the Antilles), but “Hispanic” refers specifically to Spanish descent (mostly meaning add Spain, subtract Brazil).

  13. You said you’re an Italian citizen. Were you born in Italy?

    Were you born in the US? Then you’re an American.

    There are few exceptions to these. You don’t qualify as those, from what you’ve said.

    Latino is a label invented in the US. I think you seem very proud of one maternal great-grandfather and really ashamed of the entirety of the rest of your family.

    Italian-American, Russian-American, Irish-American, etc denote dual citizenship, generally. If you’d been naturalized, you should know.

  14. First of all, you are not Italian. It’s embarrassing that you consider yourself Italian 😂 you are more Mexican-American than anything. Hispanic refers to individuals who are Spanish-speaking or have a background in a Spanish-speaking country. Latino refers to those who are from or have a background in a Latin American country. Don’t be ashamed of being Mexican, seems like you are…

    If you are so obsessed with being Italian I suggest you move there. Poverty in Italy is high, no jobs, and if there’s jobs the pay is low. I live half of the year in Belgium, there’s a lot of immigrants from Italy in Belgium working the lowest paying jobs, they work in factories, and always do the maid jobs. The cleaning lady that comes every Friday to my home is from Italy, very sweet lady, her name is Rita. No offense, but it’s nothing exotic to be Italian in Western Europe such as Belgium, Germany, France or the Netherlands. Again, Italians migrate to those countries to do the jobs the people there wouldn’t do such as factory jobs or cleaning houses. They are also not the brightest and most are very uneducated. Italian may sound exotic in the USA but travel a little more and you’d know the reality.

  15. I would consider someone with heritage from a Spanish-speaking country “Hispanic.” “Latino” is a bit more nebulous, but I would say it generally refers to people from Spanish and Portuguese speaking parts of the New World. This is all regardless of race: a Hispanic person could be all European by heritage, or all Indigenous, or all African, or all Asian, or some mixture.

    I would certainly consider you to be Hispanic or Latino with the heritage you describe.

    You also hold Italian citizenship and so you are Italian in that sense, which is certainly enough to consider yourself Italian in some contexts. And given that you identify with your Italian heritage and know things about it, and it isn’t that far back, I would consider you Italian-American as well. I think most Americans wouldn’t object to whatever your self-description is.

    How you’re perceived will come down a lot to your name, especially last name. If your last name is something like “Martinez” people will think of you as “Hispanic” and if it’s something like “Martini” people will think of you as “Italian.” But most people would consider you both to the degree that you identified as both.

  16. if people in the US “think” you’re Hispanic or Latino despite you not speaking Spanish then you must have brownish skin (mestizo)

    I get you though, here in Uruguay we are Hispanic and Latinos by definition but only people from the US use those words, and they use them to classify people with brownish skin, it’s a stereotype based on Mexicans and people from Northern South America in which us Uruguayans don’t fit at all, so we sometimes jokingly say we aren’t latinos

    I’ve stumbled upon your posts plenty of times and you seem to be really obsessed about it, this is like the 10th post and you make multiple accounts, I guess you really don’t like to be “Latino” at all and you live in a country where people is so obsessed with race that it’s troubling you a lot

    my advice: just shut up about it and stop thinking about it

  17. If you come from or have ancestry from Latin America, whether you are full blooded Spanish or other European colonizer or mixed with native populations, then I consider you hispanic/latino.

    This description applies to me (from my mothers side) and I use the terms interchangeably and don’t get hung up about it when describing myself. Though I grew up more with the term hispanic.

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