Job A: been here for 2 years, enjoy the work, like the colleagues, great perks and culture. £43,000.

Job B: Similar role, but don’t know much about them at all. £65,000.

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  2. It’s tricky because as you get further in your career – the salary bumps often get smaller the higher you go.

    However – by and large as long as the increase is more than say £5000 – I wouldn’t take into consideration that I like the people I work with – I am 100% remote so it’s a different dynamic anyway.

    For a £22k leap I would be off like a stolen car.

  4. Depends on where you are in life but £22k is decent bump so yes all other things being equal you should probably jump. Unless you can negotiate a retention pay rise.

  5. It’s a tough one. On the face of it I’d say leave in your position, but then I enjoy my current job and have been contacted about roles that are £15-20k more and I’ve decided not to pursue them.

  6. I wouldn’t stay in a job just because I liked my colleagues. People come and go all the time. For and extra £22,000 I would change, if the new job was right.

  7. Depends if I NEED that money.

    I’ve made that mistake before, left a job I enjoyed and people I liked to get 7k a year more elsewhere. Everybody at the new place was a cunt and I hated the work I was doing.

    Luckily I left on friendly terms with my old boss and I went straight back.

    Money is great but if it means spending 9hrs a day with people you despise and doing something you despise then it’s really not worth it.

  8. I would for 20k difference yeah. Couple grand would be a harder sell but that’s massive.

  9. For that bump l’d move, most big bumps i’ve ever had were from company moves and gave more options in salary. When it wasn’t salary it had always to be another “financially” led decision e.g. sstock etc.

    Also 65k vs 40k is a big difference for other things you might want to do – like mortgages etc.l

  11. Well I’m about to leave the UK and my £34,000 NHS salary to do the exact same job, working 10 hours less per week, on a £60,000 salary in Australia so I guess that was my threshold to leave absolutely everything and everyone

  12. The way I see it, if your current company isn’t paying you what you can get elsewhere, then it is not a good company to work for. 5-10k off sure there is disparity between workplaces, but 20k less suggests that don’t value you as much as they should. A good company isn’t a good company just because they have a nice culture etc. it’s about how much they value you through your salary.

    A couple of options:

    – Speak to your current company and state you are seeing similar/higher roles with more pay. Ask how you can progress to that level in your current company
    – Apply for the other roles and see if your current company will counter offer
    – Apply, get the job, leave

  13. I’ve moved any time the real difference is £5k or more, but there are way more factors involved than just the wage increase. I’d move for parity if the opportunity for advancement was better at another place.

  14. Around 20k, mainly because I’d end up in the 60% tax trap, so getting diminishing returns.

  16. > Job A: been here for 2 years, enjoy the work, like the colleagues, great perks and culture. £43,000.

    > Job B: Similar role, but don’t know much about them at all. £65,000.

    I would definitely move. It’s a big jump and 2 years at the same job is plenty. It’s a no brainer to move especially since there’s nothing negative about the new job so you aren’t even making a tradeoff, it’s just an unknown right now and you’ve gotten a bit comfy where you are (maybe too comfy if you need to ask us if a 50% raise is worth it).

  17. What’s the total package comparison?
    43k with a bonus scheme, 30 days holiday, and a good employer pension contribution could be worth more overall than 60k with statutory holidays and the minimum pension match.

    Is there a big difference in commute costs? Normalised working hours?

    What material difference would the extra cash make to your life? Will the change make your family happier?

    On the face of it, it’s a big bump to turn down but there’s a lot of variables here beyond cold cash.

  19. That’s a massive pay pump for the same job. Worth it imo.

    I’d usually want 20% or more to makeup for the stress and inconvenience of the switch.

  21. It’s got to be a noticeable difference in your pocket at the end of month. A 10-20% difference in disposable income probably isn’t worth leaving a job you like for.

  22. Read everything you can about the new company online, go on glassdoor and look at every review if they have any, check their customer reviews and make sure their service/product is good. basically just scour the internet for clues, that’s what I’d do. Also haven’t you met your line manager etc and gotten an impression ? You can also message current or ex employees on linkedin.

  24. For £65k I wouldn’t care what they are like I’d be taking the job. What do you mean you don’t know much about them? Until you start a job you never really know what they are going to be like. But a move for such a large increase is surely worth taking the leap, as if nothing else it will be advancing your career.

  25. Say goodbye but on good terms. The company might offer a pay rise to keep you.

  26. As others have said, do your due diligence on the new place. Talk to the hiring manager, go in and meet the team face to face, see the working environment (if it’s not fully WFH).

    Get an idea of who it is you’re working for and with and whether the environment / culture is right for you.

    I push for this from the other side, ie when I’m recruiting as it’s a two way street. I accommodate people as much as possible so they can be sure they’re doing the right thing.

  27. It would really depend on the culture of the new employer, I wouldn’t take £22k to be more miserable and stressed with cunty colleagues.

  28. I made that exact salary jump two years ago and it was life changing. My new colleagues aren’t as fun, but I still hang out with my old ones and it’s so nice having that extra income

  30. I left for an (eventual, after 4 years) uplift of £6k. Actually took a pay cut for, what I thought would be, the first 2 years.

    With the pay increases we’ve received last year, and another one coming April, it’ll end up being a £12k uplift. With the chance of promotion when my colleague retires in September (that’d give me a £20k uplift so fingers crossed for that).

    I left a job I’d been at for nearly 15 years, worked with people who were great, to a job where it’s non-stop from 0830 to 1730. But I need the money. Nothing was changing in my old job and I’d never make this much there.

    I’d say that if you don’t need the money and you’re happy where you are then stay. I’m happy in my new role but there’s much more stress and accountability and sometimes you miss just floating along.

  32. I would leave in a heartbeat, your colleagues won’t be there forever. That’s quite a big increase , I don’t think I could turn that down personally

  33. If it meant I earnt more than £2k a month. Even £1800pcm would make me consider it. I love my current job but the pay is always going to be 💩. I just want to be able to pay my bill and indulge a couple times a month.

  34. I left a job with awesome colleagues for 10k more.

    Was a mistake. Yes this Jon is easier but duck me I miss my colleagues and how I was at the top of my tree.

    Think carefully OP. That’s a lot of extra money.

  36. Probably 15-20k, which would put me in the mid 40s/low 50s.

    In the field I’m in that’s 100% a manager grade salary, and I’m not about that sort of stress in life haha.

    For 22k I’d be considering it, but not one foot out of the door.

  37. Similar situation for me over the last 12 months.

    I was on 48k, in a team of people I liked and a role I completely understood and did well at. Moved to another company with a similar job title on 70k but with less benefits (other than the new job being 100% remote). Didn’t and don’t regret the decision at all, even though that place had a lot of issues and I generally coasted for 6 months. As it happens, I’ve since moved again for another £10k pay bump.

    For me it was an opportunity to get out of my comfort zone and not get too institutionalised. If you’re interested in continuing to advance its often worth a new challenge and to take a punt on something

  40. Your colleagues may leave, it’s inevitable. It’s like school, you will have a good crowd but eventually it will move on. Think stand by me

  41. 5k. The proportion of your salary, monthly disposable income, and financial goals make a MASSIVE difference here. I’m not earning very much but I’m about to have a mortgage and a kid, I like my job and where I work but you can bet your ass I’m looking to apply for higher paying roles after mat leave. Otherwise, I’m staying where I am to continue earning so little I’m not even paying back my student loan, and that’s just a crap career choice for me. If I don’t change, I won’t progress, and if I don’t progress, I can’t viably afford the life I want.

  42. I’ve done the same recently. It’s early days but I think I made a mistake. I’m thinking of going back to my old job.

    Office based IT/ Technical sales.

    Job 1 probably £70k with commission etc, I love the job, love the colleagues. Only issue is that I work away from home 3/4 days a week but perhaps a better choice might have been to move.

    Job 2 around £100k but work and colleagues particularly poor. Also less of a work/ life balance, working another 12 hours per week. Commutable but an hour each day.

    I’m not sure if the money is worth not being happy at work. Considering the £30k is subject to higher tax. In a real quandary.

  45. Not even a quarter of your example, colleagues come and go. Take the cash and move on.

  46. Don’t forget a lump of that will.go to tax man. About 40% or more with NI and losing any hareing tax with partner and the child benefit rebate.

  47. That’s more than a 50% increase in salary. You’d be a fool not to take it!

  48. 50% is a pretty sizeable jump. I would probably switch jobs for a 50% hike for a similar role in another company.

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