Imagine it’s 150 years ago. Your daughter just got married. You’re not in England. Is there a phrase like ‘lie back and think of England’ that you might use to warn her that her husband is going to be… ungentlemanly … and that it’s her duty to accept this

Edit. UK =/= England just in case anyone is reading this pre-morning tea šŸ™‚

Edit 2: so it’s not, perhaps, even real, but I’m still curious if there’s a ‘non-England’ equivalent šŸ™‚

Just Close Your Eyes and Think of England


19 comments
  1. I canā€™t imagine many countries have idioms for ā€˜rape is just part of marriageā€™

  2. >husband is going to be… ungentlemanly … and that it’s her duty to accept this

    That’s a problematic statement.

  3. Iā€™m not sure how many creative ways you can tell a woman ā€œjust tolerate a lifetime of rapeā€.

  4. I’ve used this phrase so many times in different contexts, completely oblivious that it was about rape acceptance šŸ˜¬

    *Shut my eyes and think of England

  5. You say the UK doesnā€™t equal England, which is correct.

    But 150 years ago ā€œEnglandā€ WAS an accepted catch-all term for the UK and even the wider British empire. Thereā€™s every chance your average Scot or Welshman would use the same words, there wasnā€™t as much individual countryā€™s nationalism back then.

  6. Worth pointing out that it’s nearly always used ironically, and was popularised in the fifties by a french satire on the British upper class, rather than being a motto actually taught in school or wherever.

    I’d heard it was originated by Queen Victoria but apparently it wasn’t.

  7. I always thought this phrase meant how to get through consensual but unsatisfying sex. Today I learned itā€™s about marital rape. Now Iā€™m worrying where I may have used this phrase out of context in the past

  8. It used to be a case of “lie back and think of Danny Cipriani” with one boyfriend, where romantic attraction was higher than physical. The relationship didn’t work out, but I still think fondly of Danny.

  9. I know you’re asking about the other 3 nations, but it’s “close your eyes and think of England” in Germany as well. It’s meant more in a general sense of getting through something unpleasant though.

  10. To be fair if someone was planning on being ā€œungentlemanlyā€ towards my daughter then he may end up six foot under!

  11. I donā€™t know, but Iā€™m so glad itā€™s not 150 years ago for a multitude of reasons, having to be married to a man being pretty high on the list!.

  12. I live in the UK, but Iā€™m from America (sorry) and can confirm that we also say lie back and think of England, although itā€™s not super common now and more just something that pops up when watching old tv and movies.

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