What are the cons for the US to permanently stop moving their clocks up or back an hour?

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  2. If we stay on summer time all year round.
    In Chicago.

    The sun won’t rise until 8:00 AM for a while

    If we stay on standard time.

    The will rise at 5 am for awhile.

  3. The only down side is that capitalist lobby groups are pushing for permanent DST, whereas all health and science experts say standard time is best for humans. We already know our dumbass Congress will listen to the lobbyists, not the health and science experts.

    Edit: source To Be DST, Or Not To Be. That Is The Question. https://one.npr.org/i/1088655406:1089349376

  4. Everybody hates changing their clocks when it happens, but when the US tried to make daylight savings time permanent in the 70s, everyone realized they hated waking up in the dark all winter even more.

  6. Cons: the people who complain about daylight savings time won’t have anything to complain about.

    Seriously, I’ve literally never heard anyone in real life complain about daylight savings time outside of the day it happens, but people on this sub talk about it like it’s some harrowing ordeal.

  7. it will either be dark later in the morning or dark earlier in the evening. Have to pick one or the other. Whichever you prefer is what dictates the pro/con argument.

  8. Wi resident here.

    It sucks and I’m just sick of changing it twice a year.

    Just end it already

  9. It depends on which way they do it, I think. If we keep Daylight Savings Time (which we tried in the 70s and everyone hated and it was repealed within the year) then most of us will wake up in darkness pretty much every single morning of the year. Morning sunlight exposure is pretty important for humans, and depriving us of it leads to fatigue, illness, accidents, etc.

    Permanent standard time wouldn’t be quite so bad, though.

  11. Permanent DST would result in poorer sleep in the winter as everyone is forced to wake up another hour before sunrise. Permanent standard time would likely work out better, but more folks might be to invest in blackout curtains with those pre 5am sunrises in summer.

  12. For me I hate DST. When it first hits I kind of like the extra bit of daylight in the evening. But it isn’t a big deal to me. I HATE it being dark in the morning and the through of it being dark until what close to 9am in the the winter is revolting.

    Staying light until 9:30pm during the summer does absolutely nothing for me.

    I would rather stay on standard time year round. Second choice would be continue spring forward/back.

    I ***hate*** the idea of permanent DST.

  13. Full-year daylight time: Sun doesn’t rise in the northern part of the Lower 48 until 8:30AM, give or take. When this was tried in the 1970’s, many found dark school bus stops to be hazardous.

    Full-year standard time: Sun rises around 4:30AM in June. Hope you weren’t expecting a good night’s sleep.

  14. Without daylight savings time, the internet would have nothing to complain about and would have to move on to some other non-problem.

  16. For all I care the sun can rise at 11 am in the winter. I just want there to be some sun when I get home from work

  17. I think the other comments pretty much cover it. My completely useless opinion: yes, it would be darker for longer during winter. But…that’s winter. And yes, if you live further up north, you’d get even less light. That’s kind of how it works everywhere. Playing with times just seems like an exercise in futility that will never fully satisfy everyone.

  18. Leaving it on DST would probably cause some psychological issues and mess with sleep patterns as you would have some places not getting sunlight till after 9am in the winter. Let’s not forget that the U.S. has also already tried this and it failed epically only after 9 months. Permanent Standard time would lead to shorter evenings in the summer and again could lead to physiological issues. However, may be the best option out of the three. Increases in the population dealing with SAD is something that should be considered with both options. Let’s not act like we are the only country that changes time like this as we aren’t. The time changing tends to better compromise between the two.

  19. DST was first implemented in WW1, to increase daylight hours for our farmers, thus leading to more plentiful crops in theory. Did it actually do that? Damned if I know. I wasn’t around in 1917. It has kind of outlived its usefulness, but go ahead and abolish it, then watch the pissing and moaning. This well you lose an hour of sleep is complete nonsense, in that you are waking an hour later. Same goes for the gaining an hour. If you add or subtract an hour on the front end, it also applies to the back end. You don’t gain or lose anything.

  21. People close to the edge, but not over, the time zone will have very late sunrises.

  22. I’m in favor of the current system mainly for the kids and how important it was for me when I was a child.

    In the Northern States, permanent DST would mean school children walking to school or waiting for the bus in the dark. Permanent standard time would mean an hour less of evening sunlight in which to play outside.

  23. There is no downside whatsoever to stopping the insanity.

    It makes no sense. It never did. It never will.

    This needs to stop.

  26. New Mexico is working on that. If the bill passes legislation, we’ll be permanently in DST. I’d rather be stuck in ST but I’ll be happy to just be done with the change.

  27. More night time during the morning, maybe you couldn’t see the sun until 9 am for 6 months

  28. I don’t see a reason to keep it other than it’s a chance to keep alive a quirky tradition from our past. What I’d like the government to think about before deciding on standard time or Daylight savings time is which would be better for the circadian rhythms. I have heard about studies about how daylight affects cognitive ability in students and would like that to be part of the consideration before we make a permanent change.

    Also, certain parts of the country are going to be impacted differently. The level of light in Boston at 4:30 on a winter’s day is different than it is in Miami.

  31. Software changes. There will be tens of thousands of days of labor to fix, test, and deploy this change across all software in the US. It would probably be equivalent to the Y2K date/time bug which was a major issue 23 years ago.

  32. We’d have to admit Hawaii, Arizona and all our “protectorate states” were right. That’s realy it.

  34. It’s been proven that more heart attacks and car accidents happen on the days where the clock changes

  35. Most Americans don’t care and the small minority with strong interests make a lot of noise when someone tries to set the time they don’t like. Weirdly, Orthodox rabbis were a big part of the failure of last attempt to make DST permanent even though that would have made keeping shabbos much easier for their congregants (they complained people wouldn’t come for weekday morning minyan if dawn were too close to work hours, even though afternoon minyan would have become easier), which I think is a good show of their need to get out of shul more often.

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