How do u feel about very USA patriotic Non-americans who have moved to the USA? Have u ever seen or friends with a Non-american who is very USA patriotic? Does it bother u?

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  1. Our country is founded on immigrants.

    There’s no such thing as a non-American if they hold citizenship.

    Even if they don’t, and they’re just here on a visa or have permanent residency, I am delighted they want to celebrate.

    We are probably the least gate-keepy country I can think of.

  2. I can’t imagine putting any thought into being bothered by this.

    America was built by immigrants. I assume most people around me are Americans whether they have accents or not until told otherwise. It’s not like “non-americans” are walking around with a big sign on their back.

  3. The more the merrier! I’d probably just assume those people were immigrants, who are often among the most patriotic of Americans because they’ve got something to compare against.

    And to be explicit, immigrants who get citizenship are undeniably American.

  4. Why would that bother me? I never understood why it would be a problem with a nation as diverse as ours.

  5. the US has the most immigrants on the planet. it’s one of the core features of American culture. if they love it here, sounds like a great fit. what’s there to be bothered by? sounds like more fellow Americans to me.

  6. Not at all. Why would it?

    Yes, I know quite a few people who love the USA enough to move to it and met more than a few that went into the US military even.

  7. Yes, over the years there have been quite a few actually.

    The ones I’m currently in the mix with; First, my wife who was born in Germany, then my friends wife whose from Taiwan, and a close friend who was born in Mexico and immigrated here with his family when he was young.

    Does it bother me? Why would someone else’s positive attitude or opinion on basically anything bother me? I’m missing the “why? here, and no, it doesn’t. ¯\_( ͡❛ ͜ʖ ͡❛)_/¯

    EDIT; These people aren’t idiotically patriotic, they see and understand the flaws and that there’s always something that needs stopped/tweaked/fixed, but they also have the perspective of having been to other countries and “Yeah, there’s problems everywhere.”

  8. It doesn’t bother me. I know a lot of immigrants, but none seem to be overly patriotic. They all still like the country they came from (France, England, Germany, El Salvador, etc).

  9. I haven’t run into patriotic immigrants. I have noticed that the Europeans who’ve moved to the US that I’ve worked with have gone out of their way to tell me how much better their home country is.

  10. I knew a French-Canadian guy who drove a red white and blue Hummer and loved American rock music. He’d wanted to live here since he was a kid. It was fun to see him be more over-the-top patriotic than any of the native-born Americans I knew.

  11. I’m happy to see anyone enjoy living here. With all the bad going on, it’s a nice perspective seeing how happy some immigrants are to live here and how welcomed they are.

  12. I can’t really imagine any one being turned off by someone sharing in appreciation for your home. Especially a home you both now share together.

  13. An immigrant is probably the best person to be patriotic they embody everything the USA is supposed to be.

  14. Well, at that point I’d call them Americans, regardless of where they came from. Many in my family were immigrants and yet, they are some of the most patriotic. Many native-born Americans are a bit more indifferent, but certainly the opposite is often true. Of course, it all depends. It would never bother me regardless- people have a right to feel the way they do.

  15. Why would it bother me? Americans are individualist. We don’t care *what* you are, we care *who* you are. If you believe in the fundamentals of the Enlightenment, American Pragmatism, and individual liberty, you’re more American than most Americans and I want you here.

    I had a coworker that immigrated from one of the island nations around the Philippines. Might have been the Philippines themselves. I remember him going on a rant about how pissed he was at his country for *resisting* colonization. He compared his country’s devastating poverty to the wealth of neighboring islands that allowed colonization, and more or less said “fuck this, I’m switching teams and getting my prosperity from the source.” Good man, good friend, glad to have him around.

  16. I would feel quite happy that they like my country so much. It also provides a refreshing perspective on how the US is viewed elsewhere.

  17. I love anyone who genuinely loves the US and the people in it, regardless of where they’re originally from.

  18. The most patriotic couple I know are Romanian immigrants. They grew up under Communism and talk all the time about how lucky they are to be here.

  19. I have a friend who is now a US citizen but was born in Russia and he is very patriotic to the USA. He and his family moved to the US in the late 80’s or early 90’s to escape the soviet union. It does not offend me at all that he is patriotic. There are so many people who have moved to the US for the same reason he and his family did(more freedom) and some of my family is included. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a non citizen or an immigrant being patrioti imo.

  20. Non-Americans who moved to the USA? If they immigrated here then I think you mean Americans.

  21. There’s no zealot like a convert. They chose to come here, it’s not surprising that they are very into it

  22. My dad is actually more over the top patriotic than I am and he was born and raised in El Salvador. I get him though, he grew up during a horrible civil war with no future in sight. Then he moved here and suddenly he had hope and now, for the most part, he’s living the American dream. Nice house in a nice neighborhood, married to my mom whom he met here in the states, sent all of us to university. He’ll always see the US as the country that gave his life hope and purpose.

  23. I think seeing immigrants be patriotic about being in the US and loving this country is almost universally supported by everyone in the US.

  24. My grandfather came over from Italy as a boy shortly after WW2. At the time there was a fair amount of discrimination against Italians, and my grandfather and great grandfather were actively trying to distance themselves with Italy and trying to pass as regular Americans. They stopped speaking Italian. Took English sounding names, my great grandfather and then later my grandfather when he grew up both joined the US military. They basically went as out of their way as they could to prove their new USA patriotism, partially out of fear of discrimination, but also because compared to post WW2 Italy, the US was an overall much better experience for them at the time.

    So, no I don’t have any problem with foreigners who come here to become citizens and go full on US patriot. Cause for the most part I understand that usually it’s because of something like what my grandfather went through.

  25. Not a problem. I’m glad they’re happy with their decision on where to live.

  26. About half of my friends are immigrants and they’re pretty patriotic. It makes me happy to see them enjoy where they live.

  27. I view immigrant patriotism at least as highly than US-born patriotism, which I often find vague and milquetoast. Immigrants don’t take our opportunities for granted and are very specific in why they love this country. Also, it is very hard to gain citizenship here – if they’ve become a citizen, then they really do love it here.

  28. People moving to the US and loving it is the most American thing there is. We welcome them.

  29. Curious why you think we would be bothered, OP. I love meeting people from other parts of the world.

  30. Most people are very accepting and you only hear about a few assholes who would have a problem with this cause it’s controversial so it gets attention.

    A few years ago a group of friends and I went all out for the 4th of July with Fireworks/bbq/Flags/music etc.

    Many of the neighbors were fresh immigrants. Some with no to very little English and many with young children. Many had come from 3rd world countries.

    They ate it up. Loved the fireworks the flags, the Busch beer someone brought 😂

    It didn’t bother anyone and if it did, fuck em.

  31. One of the most patriotic men I met was a Czech refugee who came here after the Prague Spring and the following invasion. Dude was hardcore patriotic, to the point that the restaurant he owned would do a celebration of Stalin’s death and the collapse of the USSR with sales and specials. Even brewed a special beer for those days.

  32. As an immigrant myself, I feel more American on a deeper level than a lot of folks that were born here. I made a choice to come here, and I worked hard to make it happen. I want to succeed in this country, and I want this country to succeed. Do I pay my taxes, donate where I can, hire local labor, obey the laws, drive courteously, vote religiously, have well-reflected opinions on local and national politics, and take my hat off for the anthem? Absolutely!

    Do I rail against everything that is helpful to others, be prideful of my blond, blue-eyed whiteness, all while flying giant flags from my truck and shouting USA USA? Absolutely not!

  33. They are probably immigrants. Immigrants are usually the most patriotic, kind of the way converts are usually the most pious. It actually gives me joy to see immigrants enjoying their adopted country.

  34. Good for them. Glad they’re happy and enjoying everything that the USA has to offer. If you become an American citizen, you’re American. There isnt the same demand for familial links as in some other places in the world.

  35. we are a country of immigrants. its totally normal for immigrants to come here and love their new home. why would it bother me?

  36. Cubans, Venezuelans and Colombians are more patriotic than most natural born citizens are based on my experiences.

  37. This sounds like you confused about what an American is. If you are a citizen you are an American. Period

  38. My French friend knew more about US history and current events than any American I know. He wasn’t exactly patriotic, but loved living in the states.

  39. Why would it bother anyone? Good for them, they’re happy with their home. Everyone should be as fortunate.

  40. I think extreme USA patriotism from *anyone*, regardless of their passport, is weird.

    Respect and appreciation for what we have here? Yes, but with a healthy mind for what is still needed and the view that we will always be a work in progress.

    But blind “we are the best” “USA USA” shit? What the fuck. Get a hobby because we’re not “the best” although we’re pretty darn okay in the grand scheme. 🇺🇸

  41. I’m a Brit who goes back and forth from the UK and US. I always feel a sense of being proud when I am in the US. I tell people that I would love to be an honorary American and they seem to welcome it. I love seeing all the celebrations… especially as 4th July decor is out right now.

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