It looks like the Supreme Court is likely going to strike down Roe vs. Wade. What are your thoughts?

42 comments

1. Government shouldn’t have a say on my uterus.

2. While I feel like we all saw this coming a mile away, I am stunned.

   I’m *very* curious to see the larger ripple effects this will have, especially during midterm elections.

3. I feel physically sick right now. Pretty much my first thought when I got my news notification a few minutes ago was “holy shit” and feeling sick for my sweet little niece who just turned one. Our country is going backwards.

4. It’s a sad day in America.

   The reasoning justifying the overturn is troubling as well.

   “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision, including the one on which the defenders of Roe and Casey now chiefly rely–the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. That provision has been held to guarantee some rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution, but any such right must be ‘deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition’ and ‘implicit in the concept of ordered
   liberty.’”

   This opens the door to overturning many other things that are considered rights.

   Gay marriage, interracial marriage, birth control, sodomy laws, etc

   Very, very troubling.

5. Sad, disappointed, but not really shocked at the same time

   I truly believe this will be one of America’s biggest 21st-century mistakes. it seems that many people in this country have no clue what it was like pre-Roe

6. I find it odd that this has been released.
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7. Individual rights ought to be superior to states’ rights. I support Roe because while it might prevent states from having the ability to regulate abortion, it best protects the right of the individual.

8. This is the one. Please keep things civil. All normal sub rules still apply.

9. This opens a can of worms that nobody should be happy about. I wonder how happy the people cheering about this will be if in a couple of decades a liberal court overturns, say, *D.C. v. Heller* as wrongly decided. Since precedent and *stare decisis* mean nothing now, then who’s to say that isn’t on the table?

10. I think part of the problem is what frankly can only be called a failure on the part of progressives to put forth any legislation to protect abortion. Roe was always kind of sketch from a strictly legal perspective, so people should’ve known this was a risk and done something about it, but in the 50 years since no one has.

11. It’s crazy to think that this is happening due to RBG and her refusal to retire from the Supreme Court, even in bad health.

12. It’s gonna be wild when it actually happens. I was in DC for the Women’s March. In my 12 years in DC, I have never witnessed or been a part of a larger gathering of people and I check out most of the big stuff downtown including inauguration days.

    I would not be surprised if this is the end of SCOTUS as we know it.

13. Sadness, frustration, anger. Relief I’m in my 50’s.

14. Roe v wade was always a shitty ruling that wasn’t stable enough to protect anything. It would be way better to have it passed into law via Congress. If most Americans are pro-choice, then it shouldn’t be hard to get enough people in Congress to support it. If not, then it’s better if it’s a state issue than something the federal government can unilaterally require or ban.

15. Well fuck…
    I am numb, I am emotionally drained, I am sick and tired of making women’s right to choose a political issue. Taking away women’s access to safe, affordable and legal healthcare should just not exist in our country. How long are we going to be trapped in this oppressive dance of one step forward and two steps back?

16. So what will happen is that coastal states will keep abortion legal while southern and inland states do not.

    This will result in a large migration of educated women to states where abortion is legal.

    Poor women who don’t have economic mobility will be trapped and will be forced to give birth to kids they don’t want. This will result in large numbers of babies given up for adoption in red states.

17. Country is literally going backwards.

    It’s going to be an embarrassment on the international stage.

18. The fact that this leaked is more evidence that just like the rest of the government, polarization has overtaken and corrupted another branch of government. It’s nothing short of incredible that the court has the balls to turn over an opinion with popular support. Gotta worry for other decisions like Obergefell v Hodges and others at this point.

19. I find the timing of this leak the night before an election to be questionable. May turn out to be true, but seems designed to get more Dems out to vote. And I’m pro voice. I just recognize asimilar game as has been played in the past.

20. I would love to hear what any US women are feeling right now. I live in Australia and have never had an abortion but have never had to worry about a late period or anything because I know there are abortion providers not even 20 mins from my home. I cannot fathom what it would feel like to live in a state that would push for banning abortion if this vote goes through. How are you guys feeling right now? I’m so devastated for you.

21. Atrocious.

    Even disregarding (which you shouldn’t!) how this strips agency away from people, this is ***going to kill people***

    Making abortions illegal doesn’t stop abortions from happening, it stops ***safe*** abortions from happening. Just like how before RvW, people will induce abortions through methods that aren’t safe, and ***will die*** just like how they did before RvW.

    Of course, rich Republicans don’t care. They can afford to travel to abortion-legal states so their wives, mistresses and daughters can have abortions.

22. I’m sad, pissed, relieved I had a hysterectomy. All of the above.

23. more attacks on the poor and ever shrinking middle class. just what the united states needs. 🤦‍♂️

24. I’m living in a dystopian nightmare

25. I can’t believe we’re putting a human right to bodily autonomy at risk.

    I like living in Indiana but if this state bans abortion I am definitely looking at moving. And that puts me in a fortunate position as there are many people who won’t be able to move out of Mississippi, Indiana, or any other number of states.

    There’s a surprising amount of GOP controlled legislatures in even purple states, and I think abortion bans will be far more common than many think.

26. I guess it was bound to happen but it’s a bummer.

    America is becoming a very regressive nation, between the book bannings, abortion banning, censoring what teachers can say, etc.

27. I think a lot of women are going to die

28. I think of all the pain and suffering that will be caused. and how it will ripple down through the generations.

    and how the human condition is just so messy and sad to begin with, and how some of the apes in the tribe use their free will to make the human condition even worse.

    That’s the sad part of me.

    The angry part wants every baby that comes to term to live with a conservative Christian family. I don’t care if they have trouble with an extra 13 kids, they made the bed they shouldn’t lie about it.

29. It’s going to be hysterical when it gets leaked that a GOP senator/rep flew to California to get his mistress an abortion.

30. I do not like the ruling, body autonomy is paramount imo

    I’m also not a fan of the leak at all. I feel it has harmed the way the court operates and opens it to outside political pressure which could sway opinions in the future

31. Most States will keep their laws.

32. We’re staring down the barrel of another civil war, and I’m tired of people telling me I’m exagerrating.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473

    > “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”

    In other words: “States Rights.”

    The states ultimately have the deciding factor. Why? Because some areas are *heavily* religious, to the point where it is entire regions of the country, and this law conflicts with their beliefs. That’s all this is. I don’t support abortion after the baby is *viable.* No one is trying to do that. These people want to outlaw abortion for any reason whatsoever.

    Draped in the excuse of “states rights.”

    Between police brutality, income disparities (each state can make their own but the fed makes the minimum, CT minimum is like $12/hr), housing costs, and these culture wars issues – the division between states is becoming really fucking crazy.

    This is just one more step towards civil war. People forget how much went into causing the first. Shit, we had a whole period called [“*Bleeding Kansas*”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_Kansas).

    > The conflict was characterized by years of electoral fraud, raids, assaults, and murders carried out in the Kansas Territory and neighboring Missouri by pro-slavery “Border Ruffians” and anti-slavery “Free-Staters”. According to Kansapedia of the Kansas Historical Society, there were 56 documented political killings during the period, and the total may be as high as 200. It has been called a Tragic Prelude, an overture, to the American Civil War which immediately followed it.

    We’ve already had people threatening elected officials, more than any time in recent history. This is going to get bad, really bad. And with the tension internationally, not to mention the climate crisis – this is just a wonderful combination for misery.

33. The government should not have a say in the medical care someone does or does not seek.

34. The midterms just got a lot more interesting

35. Roe v. Wade was always on a collision course with itself eventually; so said Justice Sandra Day O’Connor. It hinges on the point of “viability” of the fetus. As medical science advances, viability keeps getting pushed back until it will ultimately become the moment of conception, rendering Roe v. Wade moot. If people want women to have the right to choose an abortion, what’s needed is actual statutory legislation, not just a court case precedent.

36. Majority of Americans have been [in support of Roe v. Wade](https://news.gallup.com/poll/350804/americans-opposed-overturning-roe-wade.aspx), and [the right of women to choose to have an abortion,](https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/05/06/about-six-in-ten-americans-say-abortion-should-be-legal-in-all-or-most-cases/) for decades. Even if you fail to see the ethical issues that comes with this decision, you should very much be concerned that one of the few things American’s from both sides agree on can be overturned by just a few people

37. Congress needs to do it’s job and pass an actual law. Roe had sort of shaky justification for it legally and this was always a risk. So they should have done something over the past 60 years.

38. This is horrible. We watch as Latin American nations that the GOP condemns as “backwards” advance past us in human rights… Where is there argument now?
    Never has the GOP cared about anyone expect for old, rich, white men. It is becoming abundantly clear that they are doing everything in their power to restrict human rights, no matter the costs.

    Please get out an vote in Novemeber. It’s the only way we can remedy the cracks the GOP is causing in our society.

39. I just don’t get why they would. In the Constitution it’s made pretty clear you’re not endowed with any rights until you’re born on US soil, or go through the Naturalization process as an immigrant.

    As far as the law is concerned, a fetus is just an undocumented alien while the woman is a US citizen. A grown American woman has the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Legally speaking, Constitutionally speaking, a fetus has none of those things. The UVVA is the sole exception in US law where a fetus is treated akin to a citizen.

    I’m very curious to see how they may justify this decision.

40. They’re returning the matter to the states and legislature, where it should be. Abortion needs to be enshrined in federal law, not protected by an arbitrary court ruling on privacy.

41. Initially, terrified. As a woman in a red state who absolutely does not want a child with my partner, terrified.

42. Not surprised, at all.