So often I just feel like life – living – is SO illogical. Especially from an entropy perspective. Folks always say, “But what about experiencing the beauty of [x, y, z]”, and I’m always thinking “Yeah, those are beautiful, but they’re every bit as beautiful if I were gone.” Or they’ll talk about experiencing the joy (or some other positive emotion) of [a, b, c], and I end up thinking “Yeah, but those feelings are only nice because they’re fleeting and in contrast to the pain and drudgery of the rest of life. I just don’t see the point of living.
For similar reasons/logic, I also struggle with why we have kids (aside from the biological drive). I have some resentment about being born (and now having to live) without my consent. I don’t want this and wouldn’t choose this (unless non-life consists of unending hell, but that’s an entirely different conversation).

EMPHATIC DISCLAIMER: I’m not out to un-life myself. I’m not plotting nor looking to be convinced otherwise. I’m genuinely interested in people’s thoughts and feelings on this question.

13 comments
  1. An immeasurable amount of specific external factors led to your existence. May as well play it out and see what comes of it. We’re all just along for the ride man.

  2. I think that this choice is different than any other one because regardless of what you pick at the moment, one day you’ll have to go the other way. One day you will die and then be done, with no choice to come back to life. Tomorrow we have death as a choice when we pick life, but when we pick death that’s it. No more choices.

    I just don’t see the point in not sticking around for a while longer. Whatever is on the other side well, it’ll be an eternity. We’ll have all the time in existence for the after, so why not squeeze out some little time in the now? Can’t hurt, we’ll have all of eternity to forget it if it hurts.

  3. ’cause if you’re dead you don’t come back. Personally, I got a hobby with years upon years of minis to slowly paint that it might take my full lifetime to finish, I got friends to keep company, and I got things to do whether they serve a purpose or are pointless. Despite everything I don’t feel like dropping dead because there’s still things in the world I want to do.

  4. most people aren’t “choosing” life everyday. if you have to make a conscious decison to stay alive each day then you should probably seek mental help.

  5. I still have a bunch of anime and video games I need to play, no need to off myself just yet

    Or to give you a more serious answer: ending myself is a conclusion.

    Once that happens, it’s done.

    If I already know that’ll happen eventually (and more likely, outside of my control) why not enjoy and experience life to the fullest, knowing that this eventual conclusion will happen one way or another?

  6. Living without your consent. Man… I thought only gen z used that excuse.

    Hate to break it to you, we either all choose to come here, or we didn’t. Either way, it makes no difference, you’re here.

    All I can say, is that you make what you can of life and that’s ultimately why anyone is here. You want to continue doing jack all and letting life pass you by as you neg the shit out of it, well then that’s why you choose life everyday, to talk shit about it. Enjoy.

  7. I had some issues with depression and felt like this for a while, some bad sleep issues, and it ended up I had blacked out some memories causing me ptsd depressive episodes. Might be worth a doctor if it’s an every day thing, bud.

    I’ve been more of an optimistic nihilist most of my life after religion stopped making sense when I was a kid. I figure there’s no point in asking these big questions, it doesn’t affect anything and there’s no way to know for sure unless I die, so whatever, fuck the whole thing. There’s a chance I only get one run at this life thing, and we’re all here without consent like you put it, so I want to make it bearable for as many people as I can while I’m here. Thinking about it any more past that though? No thank you.

  8. Sounds like you’re lacking in libido, hunger, will to power, or however you wanna call it.

    There are a lot of things I intensely desire. I’m obsessed with a friend with whom I have been intimate recently, for example, and can’t wait to explore more of that, I daydream about her smell and fantasize about our matching fetishes. I’ve landed a new job recently and can’t wait to receive the larger paycheck: I’ll have a lot of fun upgrading my house, partying and traveling.

  9. To reverse the saying: I think you’re not seeing the trees for the forest. Try taking some time to appreciate the little things in life; “stop and smell the roses.” It’s not about ignoring the bigger picture or the future… It’s just finding a healthier balance and making the present count for *something* **now** in this moment. “I am; I was.” What was yesterday *is* still as real as what is today. When you can’t see past the horizon, everything beyond doesn’t just vanish. The same goes for the passage of time. If that sounds absurd, read more Stephen Hawking. If you can’t think of anything else to do, go [chase a butterfly with some penguins](https://media.tenor.com/g7C1nlBngE4AAAAC/penguins-chasing-a-butterfly.gif).

  10. It’s the same question Sartre asked, and Shakespeare (famously) in Hamlet.

    I go on living because evolution gave me a powerful drive to live. I can try to rationalize it, but that’s why. I was built to want to live.

    Also, happiness is possible. It takes a lot of work, sort of like maintaining physical fitness or something similar.

    So:

    1. I have a totally irrational desire to live
    2. Happiness is possible, so I can’t rationally argue that it would better to be dead

  11. I guess for me it’s because the alternative is nothingness. At least, that’s what I choose to believe.

    I find when you’re staring down endless void as the alternative, I don’t see how sticking around would be a difficult choice.

    Pain and suffering are inevitable. The positive experiences that contrast that are worth staying around for, but pain and suffering are worth experiencing as well. They teach lessons and things you can pass on to your children in the hope they can skip the pain that brought you to learn that lesson.

    I don’t want to push theories and doctrine and all sorts of stuff on people, but a little studying of Buddhist philosophy brought me a lot of comfort in regards to these kind of existential dread type moments.

    I’m not religious and was able to engage with it without needing to head down the religious path.

    I feel like that got a bit rambley and tangential, but hopefully, all or some of that helps.

  12. Because I’m not an emo bitch.

    Seriously, though? Life is a mystery and I love mysteries.

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