Now imagine that, the USA collapsed and experienced a big financial crash. Few had faith in US institutions or the people who led them. As a result, some US states (and maybe even the entirety of the USA) contemplated joining Canada. They reasoned it would quickly end the crisis and lead to stability.
Canada promised them seats in their House of Commons as well as use of Canadian currency.
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If the USA collapsed would you be OK if your state (or maybe even the whole USA) joined Canada?
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If the US crashes we’re bringing Canada down with us.
Nope.
1. If we collapsed, you’re coming with us. You can’t exist without us.
2. Nah, independent Texas or joining Mexico over joining Canada, 100%
Hell no
It would be pretty strange if Texas decided to join Canada.
Nah. I’d rather join the other two Californias in Mexico, Baja California and Baja California Sur, and form the state of Mega California
If we are assuming that somehow Canada doesn’t collapse too, sure. Most likely Canada would collapse as well.
I can’t see a scenario where the United States could collapse but Canada doesn’t.
If my options are become a Canadian citizen or wander the wasteland then I’d become a Canadian citizen but I’d rather see the mid-Atlantic states form their own government – one preferably lead by me.
If the US crashes, everything and everyone tied to the USD does too. The global collapse would be bad.
So, if I went into the wilderness- probably, though doing it in the winter is a big ol’ maybe. Starting in the Spring, sure.
No.
A disunited states is unacceptable.
Dude, the individual states would invade Canada. The states are not going to be bound by treaties at that point.
Gross
If the moon was made of BBQ spare ribs, would you eat it?
I’d rather let the whole continent burn than allow the Leafs the opportunity to be smug about annexing US land.
You’d just have to look at the 2008 financial crisis in the US, and its global effects, to see that if the US collapsed, so too would the rest of North America and Europe.
Europe:
> As the financial crisis spread from its origins in the United States, few people anticipated how rapidly and comprehensively it would permeate Europe’s economy. By the end of 2009, real GDP across Europe dropped by four per cent, the sharpest contraction in its history and the deepest recession since the 1930’s (European Commission 2009). It displayed exactly the features that critics of the Eurozone feared. First, the crisis was unforeseen and sudden: it was, unlike the subsequent sovereign debt crisis, a predominantly exogenous shock. Following the US stock market plunge, the downturn rapidly spread through Europe’s financial sector and then the economy at large, precipitating a significant downturn in production. Second, the shock had a varied effect across regions in the EU, as well as sectors within the economy. Third, the downturn was too severe for the member states to mobilize a rapid coordinated response. Indeed the insufficiency of a coordinated response became evident in the following years. EU bureaucracy undertook greater economic policy surveillance and supervision of the financial sector (e.g., Hodson 2011;Bauer and Becker 2014) but the scale of reforms was limited. Moreover, the European Central Bank, with pressure from the conservative Bundesbank, was reluctant to engage in the unorthodox monetary policies that buoyed economies abroad. Thus the suddenness, asymmetry, and intractability of the financial crisis were precisely the perfect storm that risked unraveling the economic and monetary union.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7779645/
Canada:
– from an article written three years after the financial crisis of 2008
> The Canadian economy was not spared: It still faces major difficulties, and significant risks remain on the road ahead. Yet, it is also true that the country’s economic prospects have improved since the crisis, as we see in Montréal, which has enjoyed the strongest growth among Canadian urban centres.
https://www.bankofcanada.ca/2011/03/great-recession-canada-perception-reality/
However, if Canada somehow remained, I’d prefer a North American union with Canadian provinces and whatever’s left of American and Mexican states.
Are all the Canadians like this? Like, one foot in Middle Earth and the other in Hearts of Iron IV?
I don’t think it is a bad faith question, but it is a weird question. It is hard to suspend disbelief enough to picture a world where the United States collapses and Canada (or the rest of Western Civilization) gets off well enough.
I imagine to answer this question, some may join, but others would rather be an independent state. I thinking being an independent country would be the likely option.
Nah. I’d rather go it alone. With the draconian speech laws they are implementing these days and it is only going to get worse.
reality is if the US collapses I bet others are coming along for the ride.
Hard no from me. Canada is a meme. I’d rather take my chances with the local warlord.
In what world has the US collapsed and Canada survives?
Canada would be equivalent to a Balkan country in terms of quality of life without the US propping it up, lol
We would invade Canada, nothing left to lose! Besides, each individual state has a fully functional elected government and GDP. California alone has a larger population than Canada as a whole and a larger GDP! Canada’s GDP is 1.9 trillion California, which is 3.5 trillion. Canada should join one of the states!
I’d rather Chicago just became its own empire
If we go down we’re taking all of y’all with us.
If the USA collapses I’m invading Canada just out of spite. After I roll over the 300 odd mounted moose patrols I’ll travel back south and join the Republic of Texas.
Having the 5th highest GDP in the world, I think CA would sooner become its own country.
Dude, half the US would join Mexico. That’s our population makeup. I’d be ok with that. They like to party and are good-hearted. Canadians like people to think thier all good and nice, but they are just as racist as the US. Our POC would fair better with Mexico, too, probably.
Also, we don’t follow no royalty. We were done kissing king and queen butts a long time ago.