Basically a question on self sufficiency!

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  2. We’re fine. One of the most prolific farming states, Great Lakes and inland lakes for fishing, huge hunting culture, lots of engineering and manufacturing. We’re totally fine.

  3. Extremely. A lot of people won’t be able to get to work or home. Even using public transit to travel within the state will become impossible.

  5. Well, we have a massive seaport. Are we counting national borders as uncrossable, too?

  7. Not good, and not even just our state, but quite a few others since we have a major US port, and much of the East Coast distribution.

    We have a thriving farm economy and tech. We also serve weapons to the Atlantic fleet from Earl while they don’t acknowledge it I’m pretty sure they have nukes there too. I think we get by, but that’s about it.

  8. My area (Roanoke/ Blacksburg and Lynchburg) would be ever-so-slightly fucked with access to bigger cities in NC cut off, but the DC suburbs, the Winchester area, and the Bristol area would all be super-fucked.

  9. Most states would be fucked in this context. The US is reliant on cross-border travel for just about everything

  11. There’s a lot of farmland in upstate NY. The Hudson River and all our aqueducts are in state I believe so I think NYS will pull through. It won’t be pretty but the Empire State will carry on

  12. Maine’s pretty fucked. Any state is pretty fucked.

    With a modern economy there is so much trade between states that any disruption will fuck things up massively.

    Maine has the benefit of only bordering NH and having sea ports. So we’d be ok despite being fucked. Not having any road or rail access to the rest of the US means we have to go through Canada or by water.

    I imagine Maine quickly returns to its Maritime roots.

    We also probably wage war on seacoast NH to secure the 95 corridor. We probably get MA to help us. Once we take Portsmouth and secure the Great Bay then the Hamptons and Rye fall instantaneously and we push on to Seabrook.

  13. Incredibly. It is difficult to describe the extent to which the Commonwealth of Kentucky depends on the more intelligent 43 states and the 6 other members of the glue huffing club.

    We’re basically subsidized by the surplus states and babysat to the extent we can be.

  14. Realistically, no state would be alright. Texas produces enough and there’s enough open land that we could potentially be self sufficient down the road

  17. Are we closing the Mexican border and the Port of Houston? If not, we’re chilling

  18. I think Minnesota would be fine. Maybe better, considering who our neighbors are (not looking at you, Canada!).

  19. California has the highest GDP in the US and the fifth highest in the world. We have several international ports, so assuming shipping is still viable, we’d be fine for trade. We have agriculture, tech, and manufacturing. Our biggest concern would be water since we don’t exactly have a lot of that and we buy a lot from neighboring states. Other states would be fucked though because we grow over half the US’s fruit and vegetables.

  21. The casinos in Oklahoma are screwed. Two of the biggest ones sit right by the Texas border and get a ton of business from the DFW area.

  23. I feel like most states would struggle for a while if this happened. We would have serious water issues to deal with.

  24. We would survive, the biggest issue would be produce during the winter, but we export so much energy that building and heating giant greenhouses would be possible

  26. New York would be fine. We have mountains, forests, farmland, rivers, lakes, the ocean, “The City”, big cities, small towns, craft beer, experts and academics, heavily armed rednecks, you name it.

  27. MA could cut down a bunch of forests to grow food, but we’d be a lot poorer in the process and it wouldn’t be great for the environment either.

  28. Lots of campers, so if things go south we’ll know who to rely on to teach us survival skills.

  29. Ohio is in a pretty good spot. Lots of access to fresh water. Lots of agriculture, manufacturing, engineering, bio tech, medical, etc etc.

    That said, no state is going to be able to be 100 self sufficient. I’m sure every state would be hurting for some things that we probably don’t even realize if that happened.

  30. Illinois would be self sufficient. Clean water, lots of fertile soil, nuclear power plants and very hard working people.

  33. None of the douchebags from my state will be able to go on vacation to the Outer Banks.

  34. Being in Northern Kentucky were alive, being cutoff from Ohio impacts us a lot though.

  36. Ready access to fresh water, rich agricultural land, forests, decent infrastructure…we’ll be okay.

  37. I don’t even know how I’d be classified since we don’t have statehood. Maybe this means I can go to all 50 states

  38. Eh, we have our bourbon and a good amount of farm land. We’ll be fine so long as all we need to do is eat and drink.

  39. So basically Australia during the pandemic when they’d get one case and lock people out of their homes for months?

    Yeah pretty cool

  40. Every New England state except Vermont has at least a little bit of coastline; we’d have a rough few months as we commandeered every nearby yacht into the NE-NY-NJ Merchant Marine, but we’d eventually figure it out and start trading stuff with Europe just like in the good old days.

    (in Connecticut’s case we also have nuclear submarines, so we could bully other seafaring powers into submission with those and/or trade one of them to Canada for 10 million acres of prime agricultural land in Alberta or wherever)

  41. This very much depends if we’re just talking land borders. Oregon has ocean access. I think we’ll do okay. Lots of beer.

    Edit: a word

  42. PA would be fine. We export food and energy. Can we kick out the DC and Maryland commuters first? We’d be even better off. We rank top 10 (top 5 in most cases) for dairy, ice cream, mushrooms wine, beer, eggs, corn, sod and we produce roughly half of the most famous snacks in the world.

    Industrially we are picking back up non-agricultural factories including cars and electronics and have the infranstructure to expand on our own. The majority of workers also work in state too.

    We have major branches of every major military type here too, except the Marines. And the national Army college. We have a couple mildly famous units too like the 28th Infantry Division that gets mentions in movies like Dawn of the Dead.

    If any state were to become independent and survive ok except Texas it’d be Pennsylvania (and maybe Alaska and other super rural states)

  43. It would suck, but we’d survive. NC has a lot of good farmland we’d be able to convert back from soy production for a more diverse supply of foodstuffs, and we already produce piles of sweet potatoes to become the new staple food. Local climate has a long growing season, if not Texas or Cali long. And with the borders closed, we wouldn’t loose our tech knowledge, so we’d remain fairly dominant on that front.

    Actually might be a net win for housing, with the lack of new tech transplants driving up housing prices farther and farther out of reach for the rest of us, and the beach would certainly be less crowded.

  44. Colorado here:

    Food: We’re a net exporter here, we good, looking forward to beef and corn as a greater percentage of our diet and less fruit though, I’ll miss the Avocados 🙁

    Other basics: Clothing will be wool and leather mostly, with little cotton here growing, I suppose I can live with this.

    Shelter: Plenty of wood, steel and concrete for building materials, we good

    Medical supplies: This may get tricky, not sure what drug companies are setup here

    Gas/Oil/Energy: Plenty of that, The Eastern Plains and the Southwest have plenty of reserves. We also manufacture windmills (though not sure about the raw material situation for windmills) we could also fall back on Coal if desperate.

    Heavy manufacturing will be missed, though we may learn to re-adapt and make some things, we could probably scratch together some cars again with the materials we got, though rubber for tires would be an issue, prepare to learn what concrete tires feel like :-p

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