_Liebe Genossinnen und Genossen!_

TL;DR: Changing overdone topics list, changing cooldown, asking questions to you, the members, about what you want our community to be like.

/r/AskEurope is growing! Every day we see new fellow travellers join our community, and we welcome you all!

However, we, the all-benevolent and ever present moderators who love you all very much, have noticed that despite our membership counter going up-up-up, posting and commenting is going down-down-down…

We are seeing a lower amount of total posts, while the amount of posts we remove has stayed somewhat constant. This means that less people are asking questions and making threads, _despite_ the continually growing numbers of community members. If our problem had been that we removed excessively, it would be an easy fix: just remove less stuff. Sadly, it is not so simple.

We were wondering: what does the community think about this development? Do you all have any theories? Any ideas? What could be causing this development?

We are also interested in knowing whether the community is behind our current model, where we have fewer questions every day, which are of higher quality, or a model where we have more questions that (looking at the posts we currently remove) are of lower quality?

Among the moderators, a theory and the direction we’re now pursuing — contrary to earlier policy — is that a driver of the low engagement is the current posting guidelines. We want to stress: we are ***not*** changing the rules. What we are changing is the way we enforce them. We are lowering the cool-down period, i.e. how we deem a question repetitive, from 1 month, to 2 weeks, 14 days, and we condensing the [list of overdone topics.](https://old.reddit.com/r/AskEurope/wiki/overdone)

Removed from the list are as follows:

* Questions about geography, the borders of Europe, and of western/northern/southern/etc. divisions of Europe.

* Questions about conspiracy theories and unsolved mysteries. [Questions about guns, flags, military bases and English accents.](https://c.tenor.com/K5cMxElxJzoAAAAC/merica-murica.gif)

* Questions about education on former regimes and colonialism, and questions about life under and nostalgia for former regimes.

* Questions asking about the opinion on organisations like NATO, the UN and the EU. Questions about independence movements.

* Questions about how “we are not so different, you and I,” and questions about controversial opinions.

* Questions about tourism do’s and don’ts, but we still do not allow questions asking the community to plan your vacation for you.

Furthermore, any and all criticism of the moderation team is welcome, either in this thread, or through the modmailerino.

xxx, love you very much

\-the mods

8 comments
  1. I think the main reason for low activity on the sub is that it usually takes hours for people’s posts to show up. People (including me) are simply discouraged from posting because we can’t predict if our post will show up now, 10 minutes later, or 8 hours later. Just… have everything people post here show up. Then feel free to delete whatever you want.

  2. > what does the community think about this development? Do you all have any theories? Any ideas? What could be causing this development?

    Tbh, I don’t have an answer but I have noticed it in other subs I am moderating (under a different username).

    I believe that the *growing* number can be answered by reddit’s design. The more subscribers you already have the higher up you sub will show in the suggestions (eg when people are searching for a sub). So growth is kind of exponential.

    However, many of those are ‘non-serious’ users who might subscribe but then never contribute.

    I moderate a sub where the number of users has risen by 1700% (after we got it linked from larger sub) but no change in average number of upvotes occurred. I am pretty baffled myself what the exact mechanics of this are.

    In /r/AskEurope I *feel* like posts are getting more upvotes now – am I right?

    Why there are *fewer* comments now I have no idea. Maybe the repeditiveness of questions but what can you do? With an influx of new users similar questions are bound to come up again, and personally I don’t even mind it.

  3. Quite frankly : I think you underestimated how absolutely shitty and patronized the cool down period thing makes people feel, especially if it’s for answers.

  4. I love this sub, but I do sometimes feel it’s…a bit dry and overly serious at times? I think what puts some people off is that the quality of answers required is a little overly intellectual, it’s good that people give high-quality answers to serious questions but at the same time, some people just want to have a bit of fun and banter. I’m not saying we should turn this into a meme sub, I think there is a balance to be had between making sure the sub isn’t overwhelmed by shitposts (*cough* MapPorn *cough*) while still having space for slightly more frivolous posts and discussion. Some of the other country/region subs (e.g. r/AskUK or r/AskBalkans) seem to maintain that balance quite well.

  5. I think when it comes to the repetitiveness of questions, it isn’t as bad imo because we might get to see different cohort of people answering than the previous batch. I feel that those who answered similar questions before usually refrain from answering yet again but new people have a chance to express their opinions.

    In the current model, we can only search previous answers but there’s no way to engage as posts are dead. And some of the questions are so specific that only a small pool of users can actually contribute to the conversation.

    Of course I don’t mean let people ask daily the same questions like “Europeans of Reddit, what type of sex toys do you use on Wednesdays” but I don’t mind if certain topics are repeated more often as new people may want to express their opinions too.

    I get that from the point of view of mods this must be very tiring, reading the same answers daily. But most users pop in on a thread, read it, leave a comment or two and bye bye, we’ll never see each other again.

    I would maybe introduce a grace period for questions of lesser quality (not trash quality like the example above) in team’s opinion, let’s say 1-2h and past 70 comments for starters. This way you could see what sticks, what genartes engagement. If an engaging conversation has developed, consider letting the question stay, if not then remove.

    Lastly, I just want to thank the mod team for creating this great sub and the community for being super cool. I’ve been here for 3 years and had the greatest laughs, enlightening conversation, learned a lot and generally spent a good time.

  6. I agree with the changes.Though personally I’d take it further.

    I don’t see any problems with ‘overdone topics’.

    If a topic is good,it is good.If people don’t want to answer the same kind of topic they answered yesterday then they can ignore it.

    Different people can ask very similar questions, and different people can answer them too.

    I appreciate this means more work for mods (I am also a mod on a different Reddit sub, and have been moderating on other sites for 20 years or so).

    But if there are currently too few questions and answers,I don’t see this as a major issue.

  7. BTW…I think generally this is a very good sub

    The vast majority of the posts are of some interest, nearly all discussions are civil and most posters are worth reading.And the moderation is sensible and effective.

    There are a hell of a lot of worse subs on Reddit…

  8. I remember once I asked a question that was supposedly on the overdone topics list (on anther profile) and was rejected. I did a search and the last posts on said topic were from 3 or 4 years ago. And sometimes the questions asked were not exactly what I was after, even if the topic was the same.

    Things change after 4 years, and those answers may not apply anymore. And people now may have a different opinion on a topic than they did av few years ago.

    Also sometimes you ask a question and it doesn’t even show up. And you hear nothing about. All rejected posts should get an explanation as to why it’s rejected.

    The criteria for questions is just far too strict and too much censorship.

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