As someone who lived in Boston and New York and visited Philly , Baltimore and Wilmington. I think the northeast line ends at Philly. I don’t get the same culture from Baltimore and Wilmington as I do with Boston, the city and Philly.

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  1. I grew up in/around Baltimore and now live in Philly, I find the two cities very similar, personally. I consider everything from DC to Boston to be part of a cultural “northeastern” region.

  2. Ive heard Baltimore called the northernmost Southern city and the southernmost Northern city. I guess it’s sort of in the middle there.

  3. During the civil war Maryland was split in half. The southern half for the south, the northern half for the north. Whenever I visit the south Baltimore is thought of as a northern city. When I visit the north it’s thought of as a southern city.

  4. They are both Southern cities in a geographical sense.

    However, people like playing mind games on what is “Southern” and what is not; and this typically identifies Southern as something bad, so anything that doesn’t reflect as being bad is categorized as something other than Southern. This is where people identify all major cities in the South as Not-Southern or as bold as saying Miami is a Northern city. In the end, despite geography, people reflect places differently depending on personal beliefs.

  5. Yes. Any city along the Amtrak northeast corridor is part of the northeast. Aka Boston-DC

    Obviously DC has more in common with the south than Boston does but that doesn’t mean DC and the DMV in general isn’t part of the northeast

  6. I’d say that they are in the northeast but they have southern influences. St. Louis is similar as well. Even Pittsburgh is more Appalachian that the Midwest or northeast.

  7. Kind of, but not really. I usually refer to this region as “Mid-Atlantic” and consider the “Northeast” to be a different region (mostly New York and Boston with their surrounding areas).

    But, if you start looking at the concept of the “Northeast Megalopolis” then that extends from DC to Boston. Though, while that’s an interesting concept in terms of population concentration, in terms of cultural regions it should really be split into multiple regions.

  8. It’s Mid-Atlantic.

    I grew up just outside Boston, and now live in the DMV. They’re distinctly different, but more similar than you’re giving them credit for. Annapolis (the capital of MD) is like if the North End and Rockport had a small city baby. It feels *so much* like where I grew up on the North Shore in MA. It’s where I hang out when I’m feeling homesick.

    Delaware serves Rhode Island vibes.

  9. Well you would call it the midatlantic area, I think. But the Mason Dixon line is just north of the PA and MD state line. So it’s a southern city as far as where it is on a map.

  10. Baltimore incorporated *de jure* racial segregation into their first zoning regulations; something only a small number of Southern cities attempted to do. The US Supreme Court ruled that racial zoning was illegal in 1917.

    I’d say Baltimore is a “Southern Northern” city: kind of like Louisville, Indianapolis, or St. Louis.

  11. I consider the northeast to be new england and new York honestly. Anything beyond that doesn’t feel the same

  12. Draw a line in Virginia, from about Fredericksburg to Front Royal.

    If you’re north and northeast of that line, you’re in the Northeast. DC, Wilmington and Baltimore (“Mid-Atlantic”) may be different from NYC or Boston, but the influences from farther northeast are so unmistakable at this point that they’re part of the Northeast. Wilmington is also part of Philadelphia’s sphere of influence.

    So, yes, Baltimore and Wilmington are in the “lower” Northeast, on the periphery of that region, culturally. Kind of like how Kentucky, the rest of Virginia , and north Florida are on the periphery of the Southeast, culturally.

  13. DC metro area through Pennsylvania is Midatlantic. Baltimore is definitely not southern culturally.

  14. This is a distinction only somebody who grew up there would try to make lol. I feel like for everybody else, anything above Virginia and to the east of Ohio is “the northeast”.

    I mean do you think Baltimore is more like Virginia? Ohio? Or do you just think they’re their own little thing because you dont like them? Lol

  15. Culturally northern Delaware has a lot in common with Philadelphia. Wilmington is geographically close to Philadelphia that a lot of people commute to Philly/Wilmington for work.

    But technically I refer to this area as mid Atlantic not northeast

  16. Half of my family is from Baltimore and do not consider themselves in the north with the rest of us. I’d say the “North” starts as soon as you go north of Maryland. Baltimore is south of the Mason Dixon line and that’s the line I was always told. But I still don’t really think of it as the south either. Mid-Atlantic would be the region to me, but that also covers a lot. But they also don’t really get much for snow and they plant their gardens while we still have a bit of snow in the “North”.

  17. Wilmington is super close to Philly and they have a lot in common. SEPTA even goes to Wilmington, and both cities have awesome cheesesteaks.

  18. When I was a kid in the 70s traveling from NYC to visit family in DC, Baltimore was my cultural gateway. Riding south, it was the last city that reminded me of home. I think it was the manufacturing and blue collar vibe at the time.

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